There has been a huge influx of posts dissing roles like Product, Marketing, HR etc. by Techies.
Every other post, or comment is made by them undermining the value of other depts and these cuties think business runs just by their sub-par code.
I understand that their delusion stems from the fact they get paid huge salaries by loss making companies. Which is bound to crash sooner or later.
Rant over.
As a senior software engineer I agree with this post 100% Software devs are some of the most business ignorant people I have worked with and I have worked exclusively only in Product based companies (One unicorn) The pig headedness of these people and the self importance they give to their 'ideas' without understanding it contributes to business or not is mind-boggling.
Engineers need to come to realisation that we are here to support business run smoothly. WE don't run the business. Sadly I don't see it happening for a long time
^ You are the prime example of what I was talking about. Thanks for providing an example
Interesting POV.
Nassim Nicholas Taleb mentions an interesting advice. If you don’t know what to do, follow what the smartest people in your generation are doing.
These are almost exclusively fulfilling and financially attractive opportunities
According to him, in the 1990s Lebanon, the smartest kids in undergrad went and became Economists. In the 2010s, the smartest kids became Software Engineers.
Perhaps, their ego does not stem from the money but from competence.
However, true charisma is merging that competence with warmth. And for that, you must eliminate the ego.
The point here is that the engineers feel only they are competent and rest are deadweight fools. It’s shocking TBH because this reeks of delusion and lack of real world knowledge.
@WildForte85 Could be a generalisation by you but indeed what you say is statistically significant.
This is reprehensible and people should have the self awareness to modulate their behaviours.
As far as I have seen the concerns raised on the product managers are quite genuine. You are just not liking it that makes it your problem
Mediocre people attack mediocre people.
Mediocre people also feel attacked from mediocre people.
People who are good at what they do (regardless of what role they are in) don’t care what people say about their role/job. They just build in silence and are ultimately are the ones who end up making a difference, while mediocre people keep squabbling.
That's cause they're paid so much, knock a 0 (or two) from their pay cheques, they'll automatically become humble 😂
Your post itself has the answer, haha. Adding to your point, students also treat some of them as gods, so there's that. Don't lose your peace of mind over a piece of text on the internet. Well, I'm also technically 'overpaid'... nervous laughter
Don't take it to heart. Most rants here are purely out of frustration and being underpaid. If you are truly good at building and marketing yourself, you will always do well and be paid accordingly, whatever anonymous keyboard warriors may say.
There is a divide even b/w "techies". A Dev Rel is considered inferior to an engineer. A Frontend Developer or QA Engineer is considered inferior to a Backend or Fullstack Dev. Guy working at TCS/Infosys is considered a beta Developer and folks at MAANG gigachads/queens. A Systems Engineer or Platform Engineer is regarded as truly gifted(which they are IMHO).
So don't fret upon it. It's bare human nature to feel superior to others. Respect every line of work and be humble. I'm socially awkward and can't even fathom how marketing folks come with such dope ideas.
The only thing that matters is “business”, and techies should realise during desperate times it can be done over an excel sheet as well , or the bunch of no code tools available . So please get off that high horse , learn some basic skills like talking to someone , understanding what your business goals are , how not to be a jerk. Comprehend this , the company does not exists so that you can code and recode and optimise shit , you are the last piece of puzzle in a very complex system and not the whole system itself.
Couldn't have put it in better words myself haha
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