Why are managers so insecure?
There are multiple instances that happened recently:
- Our team is involved in some performance exploration tasks in GPU and we together made some assumptions which my manager approved. While going to designers we had to explain about the assumptions and my manager abruptly pinged me on personal chat stating not to speak any further. I had to pretend like I don't know anything.
- I was debugging a performance issue with one senior teammate(my manager's peer). We found a big performance issue and came up with a quick solution. I filed a JIRA with the same person immediately and my manager got pissed off that he might lose the opportunity. Now since the other person is senior he will get away with all the credit.
- Recently I worked on modelling one of the large features in the GPU. I designed the solution and took help from a junior member to code and debugged the performance end to end. When it came to presentation to outside teams and VPs, I got to know that my manager and that junior person is presenting everything and no one acknowledged me for my 3-4 month of efforts.
I feel like confronting it to my skip level manager. I am getting good work here and did lots of amazing stuff in the past and got a lot of recognition in the past 3 years. However, my manager's behaviour changed recently since I started interacting a lot outside the team and getting work assigned directly from others and he is bypassed most of the time.
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Stealing this
My manager is leading a project which runs on Spring Boot and yet he does not even know what is an api and what is a url ?
Which brings the question, what does he know so that he became a Manager?
So if we accept this logic, does your CEO know all the technology that your company is dealing with?
Choti muh badi baat... But i think thats the reality in every corporate right??? I mean skipping your manager and not looping him in on anything definitely irks a person.... I mean its hard to get that, but if someone from your team is getting work overshadowing you being the superior, it literally makes your position irrelevant in the long run...looking at you may be the whole team might get influenced and start doing it and make him look irrelevant... And you should have also thought that finally its your manager or immediate supervisor who would be dealing with your appraisal...
Its the same story everywhere...
well if he's irrelevant he's irrelevant it's not employee's job to make his/her manager look relevant he/her manager has responsibility to make themselves relevant.
Yeah i guess so, but isnt that how it is really right now everywhere...
So many people at management level that are really irrelevant when it comes to their actual role..
Cant helpđ
And i dont blame his manager as well...he is trying his best to stay relevant in what ever skill he knows...if you know what i meanđ
You can either stick to reality or choose to change your reality...
If thats not your preffered theme of working, then i guess its better to change teams or switch if possible....
I don't know how he is able to handle communication with higher management without involving you, as you only know in depth technical details.
These day, High level Presentation doesn't mean technical discussion in most corporates. It's all about 3-4 fancy slides, big words, high level numbers and that's it. How we reached there, the effort, time, stress doesn't matter to them and ANYONE can present those slides and hence it's always the non-manager employees who end up exactly like this.
He is also technically well versed with all the details. He is not a bad engineer.
@BogusHoneydew35 - I think you are also making one mistake here. From your comments it is very evident that you are very proud of getting recognised outside your team. We all do that. I am also doing so many collaborative works and I love to do it. But the mistake what you are doing here is, you are forgetting that you are part of a team and you have a manager. What you are supposed to do is, include your manager as well in these discussions. When someone approaches you or when you find an opportunity outside your team, you have to talk to your manager first. Nobody is going to deny you from doing stuff where you have interest. He will let you do that as a side project. It seems like you hate to update your manager about your activities and maybe that junior engineer is working with your manager. Try to change your mindset as well. Divert new queries to your manager for his approval. It is not like the other person is always wrong. Tbh, I am not understanding your logic that you work for others without the approval from your immediate supervisor/manager.
Just to answer this, our team is closely coupled with so many teams and we sit together. Being a senior member in my team and my manager being busy I get into direct communication a lot of times from other teams. From lots of comments I realised people are doubting my manager's technical capabilities. He is hardcore technical person but I feel he got too much into management but not high enough in the managerial line that he doesn't need to do any real work (For QCOM you have to be a Senior Director or above to avoid getting your hands dirty otherwise everyone is working here). Since he himself is not doing anything (for whatever reasons), he wants to be relevant outside that's why all this circus I feel. Also, we have weekly sync and I never skip him while sharing some information outside the team.
Your manager is a pathetic sadistic being. Give them respect :) they are micromanaging for sure. Don't do skip level if skip level is an Indian.
Well...if the manager was good enough to understand your contribution under point 3, he should have roped you in for the presentation. But in this case the junior too could have professed about your contribution. Your manager has reached where he is by playing backhanded tactics like this, as this is what he immediately turns to. You shouldn't worry about him as it seems like you are getting enough attention and recognition anyways.
Do not, they are in this together. No one will take your side, maybe for a little while just to show you importance but later on you will pay for this sin.
So chill the fuck up or move to diff team
lol if he is really insecure wait till he tells you âthis is bare minimumâ, âyou make excusesâ or âstart performing at your levelâ bs. If you canât deal with your manager you have to leave, there is no way in hell people change.