JazzyBurrito
JazzyBurrito

The downfall of software engineering. Rise of every other function

I used to look upto my SWE colleagues as geniuses who do things that simply cannot be done without years of practice

Me and my UX friends would look like lesser beings and mere mortals

But AI has changed this. Even I’m being able to send pseudo code, system logic and debug code along with designing the product.

After AI - I feel I’m smarter and more useful to the company than SWE friends.

Should this also mean I get paid equal or more than SWE friends at a similar level of experience? Perhaps yes.

Should I get the same amount of respect. Definitely yes.

3mo ago
Talking product sense with Ridhi
9 min AI interview5 questions
Round 1 by Grapevine
BubblyJellybean
BubblyJellybean

You should get the respect either ways, but the AI has only changed the perspective of people. Yes with the right prompt you can definitely write code having zero knowledge of programming. But in its core, programming has never been about writing code. There is so much more to it as a developer than to just write code. Understanding the system, the requirements, the logic and so on.
AI helps me write code too, but if I don’t know what the code does, I’ll end up in a pickle later. Scalability becomes an issue and many AI agents have been providing with packages that don’t even exist. As a non developer person, you will not know what is wrong with your code at all.

JazzyBurrito
JazzyBurrito

I agree that I’m achieving only a very basic level of coding with AI. And in its depth the understanding of CS and algorithms is an art/science that’s much deeper. Specially I’m sure AI can not help me write a scalable system as I don’t even know what to prompt the AI to solve for.
Appreciate the answer

BubblyJellybean
BubblyJellybean

Yes, and that is an added advantage. I work as an AI engineer with very basic knowledge of frontend, ChatGPT helps me write some html and css code. So, in short, people with just basic knowledge and skills will be replaced by AI.

JazzyBurrito
JazzyBurrito

An angry software engineer posted an angry comment here and then deleted it. Not sure if it was because it got deleted by Grapevine team or by the user any way. Stop being sour man

WigglyPenguin
WigglyPenguin

ate too many grapes, became sour

ZoomyBagel
ZoomyBagel

I think the fault is on your side for thinking of the swe’s a geniuses when at the end of the day the truth is that humans are just chimps with slightly better specs

SnoozyWalrus
SnoozyWalrus

🤣 Arre bas bas bas

SqueakyWalrus
SqueakyWalrus

Correction : slightly better specs that are unique to themselves

QuirkyPancake
QuirkyPancake

Lol lol lol
( system designing is laughing in corner)😂

SleepyRaccoon
SleepyRaccoon

What code are you writing thats so easy?

SqueakyWalrus
SqueakyWalrus

Hmmm. By your logic, I should also get respected and paid well, because I drive my bike like Valentino Rossi. Right ? He also drives a super sport bike. I also drive one. He studies the track well before racing on it. I do the same except I drive on city roads with a mixed bunch of other drivers and zombies as well. Right ? Right ?

ZoomyBoba
ZoomyBoba

Idk why, but the tone of this post seems so immature.

JumpyHamster
JumpyHamster

I see f500 adopting these tools too. In another 2-3 year, you should be having enough synthetic data that makes the model smart enough. But for SWE too boom we need compute cost to drop furthur.

JazzyBurrito
JazzyBurrito

What is F500? Interesting comment on the synthetic data.
We are most likely to get companies who create and sell synthetic data soon

GigglyPanda
GigglyPanda
IBM3mo

Fortune 500 companies

PrancingDonut
PrancingDonut

I don't know about the pay thing but as far as respect is concerned, you definitely should get and deserve equal respect at workplace.. what you do is equally important.

With AI, just like AI can do fairly simple UI, UX page designs given a prompt, it can write basic code given a prompt.. But that's about it... A developer's job, just like a designer's job involves much more that writing code or creating mocks.. That's where AI can't replace us, yet...

SqueakyWalrus
SqueakyWalrus

emphasis on the "yet..." 😂

JumpyRaccoon
JumpyRaccoon

Your mistake to think SWEs are geniuses. And if you think geniuses get paid more you're wrong there as well. Probably the ones with the most fragile ego in any workforce are the software engineers (even before AI). They're just riding the wave and making hay while the sun continues to shine. And they're probably the ones who talk like they know everything but the last to know what's going on in the business they're working in.

GigglyBagel
GigglyBagel

Bro, who hurt you?

SparklyBanana
SparklyBanana

I think the right question to ask is - which tool will make my work mundane and make me redundant or obsolete. Salary, Respect will keep following you once you have an answer to your question.

Discover more
Curated from across
Software Engineers
by SwirlyQuokkaGoogle

[Hot Take] AI will make SWEs redundant, PMs and Marketers will become the most important job

It’s clear that companies won’t need engineers 10 years from now.

They’ll just need people who know what to make. Who to sell to. How to sell to. At what price.

This will be the great commoditization of Software development

Ta...

Top comments
user

This is an L take for someone who works at Google It is supremely obvious that SWEs are about to enter the golden er...

user

AI cannot compensate for judgement. 90% is still copied from github, stackoverflow but the 10% that a engineer puts b...

user

What a cope. Do you really work at Google? Ai had already come for marketing and PM also

Software Engineers
by SleepyBananaSoftware Architect

Software engineering job is highly overrated. Prove me wrong if you can.

  1. You are building a software that otherwise could be built by a 12 year old kid, if given proper training.
  2. You cannot code if I cut off google, stackoverflow & related websites.
  3. You are just concerned about producing the output q...
Top comments
user

Tell me you are a mediocre programmer/ work with mediocre programmers /an idiot without telling me you are.

user

Hahaha LinkedIn is the platform for this kind of shitposting

user

Blud thinks he's onto something 💀 Let me guess, you're a PM?

Software Engineers
by SillyQuokkaProduct Manager

Software Engineers as seen by a Product Manager...

  1. They are the most overpaid people in India.
  2. They have no work life balance and they don't even know what it means.
  3. They think they are the best at everything, but they can't do anything right.
  4. They are always complaining a...
Top comments
user

PM as seen by Engineers: 1. Doesn't do anything other than throwing random jargons 2. Can't explain what they do ...

user

Product Manager as seen by Software engineer: 1) Just a new name for erstwhile Project Manager. 2) Thinks 9 f...

user

You're just not ready to listen to what Software Engineers think of Product Managers.