FluffyJellybean

TCS : "Ethical" Tata doing what ethical Tata does

After they didn't see the required resignations from 5 day office, now TCS is asking employees to transfer to locations with just 2 week notice.

https://x.com/chandrarsrikant/status/1724764510689587441?s=20

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/after-five-day-work-from-office-tcs-sudden-transfer-notices-outrage-employees-11749621.html

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GroovyBoba

X (formerly Twitter)18mo

Nothing unethical about it. Everyone there would have signed the legal hr mumbo jumbo to do whatever the hell the company wants them to do.

FluffyJellybean

Stealth18mo

That's legal, yes. But not ethical. They boldly claim that they will be ethical with integrity. They talk about integrating social principles in their business. Say they'll caring and collaborative relationship with their employees based on trust and mutual respect. (Pause for a 5 min laugh)

Then go on to abuse employees like this. If they want to fire, just fire them directly with a severance. Why make them jump here and there?

SillyJellybean

Stealth18mo

Because they don't want to pay severance lol

GroovyDonut

Stealth18mo

The article itself says that employees will get relocation benefits. If you are getting the benefits then it doesn't matter when they want you to move.

And there is no transfer in the world which doesn't get criticism.

SparklySushi

Microsoft18mo

Uprooting your entire life and moving to a different part of country with your family and kids is justifiable because they are providing travel and stay reimbursement? Transfers induce a lot of stress and anxiety, and honestly travel and stay is least of one's worries.

GroovyDonut

Stealth18mo

While your point is right, there is a reason it's called 'Naukari' you are their 'naukar'.
Feel and experience change ho gaya ho time ke sath, but basics to abhi bhi wahi hai.

SquishyUnicorn

Bombay Play18mo

Let's be very clear. Companies like TCS, INFY, WIPRO etc never invested the profits they made from the past 30 yrs in R&D.
They gave them back to their investors, in the form of a buyback, dividends, bonus etc. instead of investing heavily in AI. Meanwhile companies like FANGMAN invested all the money in AI to replace the companies like TCS, INFY, WIPRO to reduce costs. Now since FANGMAN is cutting on their expenses and reducing the budget of these companies, they are going to feel the heat and so will their employees. So such things will become pretty common in the future even if these companies don't want to do that.
Like in the past 25 years, this is the first time the headcount has been reduced.
Transfers within 2 weeks. All these are just the weak winds ahead of the heavy storm that is going to come.

SillyDonut

TCS18mo

Thand rakh chote...faangm isn't cash cow of witch.

SquishyUnicorn

Bombay Play18mo

Not sure what you mean here but Apple's last year profit was 170B $. More than TCS's current valuation.

SwirlyPancake

Amazon18mo

Every org transfers people. Its a part of the agreement. Business needs define work location. What is so surprising about this? I am sure people can negotiate timelines if they are willing to move. Hullabaloo over nothing frankly.

SillyDonut

TCS18mo

True

FluffyJellybean

Stealth18mo

They're very clear that you transfer in 2 weeks or face disciplinary action including termination . That's what Hulahoo is about.

CosmicQuokka

Paralleldots18mo

imo tcs employees won't even care about this as much foul cry being created on social media, those people are dheet like stone management can kick them around nothing happens.

For those truly impacted would straight out look for something else, no two ways about it, I've been at tcs, different logic works there.

SillyDonut

TCS18mo

Damn

FuzzySushi

TCS18mo

This article is clickbaity tbh. Earlier (after covid lockdown)they allowed employees to work at a office near their home/hometown . Now they are asking the employees to work at their assigned office. This is just return to office and business as usual

FluffyJellybean

Stealth18mo

This is beyond that. That already happened. Now they're asking people to transfer within 2 weeks. Folks at the Gurgaon office are being asked to move to the Chennai office and so on. No extension and if they don't move within time frame, disciplinary action including up to termination.

FuzzySushi

TCS18mo

When employees move to bench and are assigned to a different project in a different location they are asked to move to the new location . Nothing new after covid tbh

GigglyPancake

Deloitte18mo

This is so common in PSU Bank jobs and people outraging against this speaks volumes of privilege

FluffyJellybean

Stealth18mo

Banks generally transfer within a region that can be travelled in a day. Plus transfer is fixed in approx 2 years so you know it's coming. You also get enough time to prepare for it. In addition to that you get 1 week leave beyond normal leaves before joining a new place to sort everything out. Your old accommodation is also paid for and for a new place you get allowance for 2 weeks. Most people just go there for 5 days and then go home on weekends. Here people are being asked to transfer 1000s of kms away in 2 weeks or face repercussions.

These benefits are not being given by TCS.

GigglyPancake

Deloitte18mo

Dude, there is no policy in banks which mandates transfers in a region. I was schooled all around India including north east as my dad was transferred.

Plus, taking transfers away from home location ensures faster growth.

TCS folks for 3.5 years of wfh, no?

WigglyRaccoon

Google18mo

HR finding new ways to lay off, hitting proper metrics this time & that too without damaging the brand image.

SquishyQuokka

Gojek18mo

The same is happening across WITCH companies

SquishyMochi

Urban Company18mo

Which part of we don't want to pay severance but cut the extra manpower flab is not clear to people?

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