SwirlySushi
SwirlySushi

Side Effects of working at startups

I am a 6 yrs experienced Software developer and part of a mid-stage startup. This is my third job; I have been working here for 3 years. I was involved here as one of the core engineers at the start in developing the overall platform, After that, my growth as an engineer stagnated for 2 years .

Constant importance and priority are given to business requirements and hacky work getting pushed to production in the name of fast iterations and business impact every week.

My engineering manager lacks proper engineering skills and doesn't respect engineers even after their impact on the company and constantly keeps saying the engineering team doesn't contribute to the revenue of the company despite us pushing work that improves business positively.

Last year around November, around 80% of the engineering team was subtly suggested to start looking out for work (basically a soft layoff) because management was too scared of a social media backlash

Due to all this,2 years' worth of technical debt has accumulated on the overall codebase and apart from giving justification for every code improvement that we try to make there, we still have to work on business/product requirements.

My growth as an engineer has stopped and I am worried about missing out on the latest developments in the tech industry, especially with AI in the picture, and want to make my skillset somewhat AI-proof. I have come back to hands-on coding this year , so that's a positive start. I am considering taking a 3-4 month break after resigning from my company to study, develop side projects, develop a portfolio etc

Has anyone else been in this boat ? How did you come out strong?

13mo ago
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SwirlyCupcake
SwirlyCupcake
Toddle13mo

I relate to this on so many levels

Boss is a jackass who acts tough within team but is scared in front of other stakeholders. He nags us for updates, is super micromanaging and yet his team performs the worst in the entire org.

Also the CEO is super bullish on AI which has made our spends on ChatGPT API really high. The AI features are actually pretty trash - they feel janky and incomplete. Almost like the people working on them didn’t really care.

SwirlyCupcake
SwirlyCupcake
Toddle13mo

Did I also mention that we basically work from 9am to 9pm everyday.

Miss me with that shit. I am here to learn, not to be your slave.

Boss makes a dollar I make a dime That’s why I prepare for interviews on company time

SwirlySushi
SwirlySushi
Yocket13mo

That last line slaps hard😂

PerkyUnicorn
PerkyUnicorn

You know what’s worse ? Company that’s not a startup anymore but calls itself one so it doesn’t have to improve its culture.

SwirlySushi
SwirlySushi
Yocket13mo

Yuuuup ,yuuup

All in the name of urgency,"motivation" for quick results and because someone decided to give feedback on a feature rolled out 5 months before and wants his/her requirement implemented the next day

DancingLlama
DancingLlama
Uber13mo

bro how’s the culture of razorpay? have heard so many good things about tech innovations.

SqueakyBiscuit
SqueakyBiscuit
Swiggy13mo

Daily standups with CEO one in morning and one in evening, with posting updates on your daily work on Slack 💀

And not even single day he will appreciate someone, but rather will say nasty things

SqueakyBiscuit
SqueakyBiscuit
Swiggy13mo

And what more is nobody leaves early everyone just works till late nights idk why, and even if you leave early, ya you are in people’s and CEOs eyes on hot list

SwirlySushi
SwirlySushi
Yocket13mo

Dude the CEO's lack of appreciation and regular updates on slack is on point. The same has been happening with me

PeppyPenguin
PeppyPenguin

Buddy, in a startup, chaos is the new normal! No worries, just remember "Har mushkil ka hal hota hai". Upgrade yourself, never stop learning.

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SparklyBagel
SparklyBagel

Startup = Fuckup

ZestySushi
ZestySushi
Zomato13mo

What would you want an ideal startup to do at 0-1, fulfilling everyone's growth, satisfaction, features shipment....? Think like a CEO while answering and reason how you would achieve it

SwirlySushi
SwirlySushi
Yocket13mo

I thought like a CEO for the past two years and that's why I am in this situation. I understand the 0-1 journey to stabilize business as well but where do you draw the line then?

ZestySushi
ZestySushi
Zomato13mo

Would less number of engineers have helped? Like bare minimum with a damn high salary increment.

PrancingWalrus
PrancingWalrus

I know of such startups(matured now but still startups) which are paying 50LPA for SDE2 with 4 hours of work daily.

SwirlySushi
SwirlySushi
Yocket13mo

Name a few , would definitely like to know which domain these companies belong to

SwirlySushi
SwirlySushi
Yocket13mo

Also the thing is i am fine with fast work but heck don't just wreck an entire codebase and overlook growth of people enabling your business technically

GroovyUnicorn
GroovyUnicorn

If you feel that your growth has been stagnant, then leave asap. One shall move out at a point.

SwirlySushi
SwirlySushi
Yocket13mo

Thanks alot man!

It feels good to hear some encouragement and not hear the good old 'Market is bad, don't do anything' , my counter point to it has always been that I put 2 years of time and effort in enabling another company's success,I can definitely put that effort in my career 😄

SillyBurrito
SillyBurrito

I feel you, on the same boat for the past 1 year.

Have some backup money for your runway

SwirlySushi
SwirlySushi
Yocket13mo

I have 1 year worth of runaway money so far

DerpyBoba
DerpyBoba

What was your startup company product btw?

SwirlySushi
SwirlySushi
Yocket13mo

One stop platform for study abroad aspirants to research and get counselling online for University application procedure, profile evaluation etc

SparklyBiscuit
SparklyBiscuit
Tekion13mo

Leap scholar?

PrancingPotato
PrancingPotato

The main drawback is that they do not have any ethical values

SwirlySushi
SwirlySushi
Yocket13mo

And at the same time expect the employee to be ethical and play fair

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