FloatingBanana
FloatingBanana

Should you confront your manager about a colleague’s incompetence?

As the title suggests, does it make sense to talk about a colleagues’s inability to deliver to my manager. The colleague’s incompetence to take ownership is very evident now to everyone and the manager is not taking any steps on it. Others have to basically cleanup and babysit him. Worse part, this colleague gets paid the highest in the team. At this point it’s just breeding resentment across the team. How to handle this situation? Any tips. Early stage startup, the manager is part of the founding team.

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GigglyDonut
GigglyDonut

Send an email and CC your colleagues stating that all have same thoughts. Point out specific instances in the mail and showcase how it's affecting your bandwidth and morale. This way it's documented and inaction can be escalated.

GigglyLlama
GigglyLlama

How old are you, man? Just left your nappies. Dangerous advice this. Never leave a paper trail of communications like these and never make your collaboration explicit. Never ever appear that you're coordinated with other colleagues. This advice is unhinged!

GigglyDonut
GigglyDonut

Collaboration? It's a collective complaint, not a coup suggesting any action. Sounds like you have PTSD from not knowing how to express yourself appropriately.

SparklyNugget
SparklyNugget
Google22mo

What a sick fuck. Have a life

QuirkyUnicorn
QuirkyUnicorn
Gojek22mo

Nope, absolutely necessary to call this shit out

SnoozyPretzel
SnoozyPretzel
Cred22mo

Absolutely necessary to cut bull shit in early stage ventures, live and let live doesn't work for people with high ownership. But is it the work that is the problem or is it that the person is highest paid is the problem.

GigglyLlama
GigglyLlama

Do not get involved. Try to minimise your own additional work due to that colleague. In one-to-one meeting with manager, let the manager know. Use the words: I just wanted to bring your attention to one more matter. Then describe the challenges that you face. Not your team. Do not gang up, do not conspire or collaborate. Do not mention about how other colleagues feel the same way. If your manager takes a negative opinion of these activity, you'll be fucked, because such a thing would create a negative impression. If the manager is not inclined to go by your judgement of your colleague's competence, you'll lose face. But it's much easier to control the narrative and restore your manager's confidence in you in a one-on-one conversation, than when it's a group mutiny. No matter what others tell you, do not get encouraged. People often sound like they're with you, but they often are not. They won't back their statements, and you'll be alone holding the bag. And moreover, if you stay out of it, you'll be able to carry the high ground of being above the fray, out of politics, and being balanced. Don't do netagiri of this sort. Conserve it for initiatives for which getting consensus is harder. It might be possible that you're the only one feeling so strongly about it. Then you may be in need of a weekend, or someone to vent to, or even therapy. But get your hate in check.

PerkyMarshmallow
PerkyMarshmallow

If you're doing it. Do it with the whole team. And don't even dare sound like the ringleader. If everyone complains together, he'll be forced to give feedback to the truant coaster and next time he'll have a sharper eye on the dudes misgivings. If you complain alone, it won't have the same heft.

GigglyLlama
GigglyLlama

Dude, worst possible advice.

BouncyQuokka
BouncyQuokka

Why?

SquishyBiscuit
SquishyBiscuit

Don't clean up and babysit then

SquishyBiscuit
SquishyBiscuit

Also does he has a better relationship with the manager than you? In that case idk

FloatingBanana
FloatingBanana

It’s the team’a OKRs that takes a hit then. And it always comes down to someone else to help complete them.

DancingMuffin
DancingMuffin

and why're you doing your manager's job for him?

GigglyLlama
GigglyLlama

Exactly.

FloatingBanana
FloatingBanana

Cuz that’s what other folks are told to do when an OKR is in the red.

QuirkyJellybean
QuirkyJellybean

Just bring it up casually in your 1-1s

BouncyQuokka
BouncyQuokka

First you have to talk with your colleague about what challenges they face to deliver the required work. Do not make it personal, try to understand the reasons and maybe help bring them up to speed so you won't have to babysit. You can also tell your manager the productivity hit you're taking while cleaning up the mess and request help in bringing the person up to speed. Focus should be on meeting team's goals and your own productivity not acting against a colleague

SqueakyCupcake
SqueakyCupcake

What you can do? Stop cleaning up the shit and babysitting. You can bring the same on 1on1 with manager. And try to present it like you don’t have the problem, overall its a problem. Passively put all the points, so you don’t seem like devils advocate. Never ever drop a mail or anything, don’t give the hint that you’re backed with others also. Manager should go and find out themselves.

PerkyPickle
PerkyPickle

+++

SleepyBanana
SleepyBanana

This is so difficult situation to deal with. If you do it the odds are going to be against you.

What’s the equation between your manager and this colleague? It plays an important factor before you even politely quote him, let alone going all-out with the criticism.

GigglyLlama
GigglyLlama

Exactly.

FloatingBanana
FloatingBanana

I unfortunately don’t know. But I was too driven to do great work a year back. Now, I’m not too sure. It’s the effect that this is having on me that I’m concerned about.

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