DancingPretzel
DancingPretzel

RMG (Real money Gaming) companies going dead

Becoz of GST many companies are pivoting or changing gaming algo to make players loose to pay GST. Game of chances are being launched

  1. MPL , Launched betting games
  2. Zuppee , teen patti and betting games
  3. Games craft , rummy circle rigged card distribution
  4. Tradex , Probo Mostly will shut down
  5. Rummy apps , Better opinion , tamasha and other small companies are planning to shut down RMG part
  6. Nazara acquired RMG companies are unable to operate
  7. Octro is closing the RMG app.

What more ? If anyone knows do share up.

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CosmicLlama
CosmicLlama

Hoping they all close ASAP. 28% GST is not enough. It should be higher at 50%.

Westerners used Internet and computing to design better planes and build better engines, our guys are using it to play cards.

JazzyBoba
JazzyBoba
Adobe16mo

Your comment makes no sense. There are many betting apps in the US too

GroovyBoba
GroovyBoba

legal betting is a lot more prevalent in the west than here - and india has its fare share of illegal betting and matka - making it online and accessible isn’t such a bad thing

QuirkyJellybean
QuirkyJellybean

What about dream11?

DancingPretzel
DancingPretzel

Dream 11 will survive as they rig at mass

QuirkyJellybean
QuirkyJellybean

They are valued at an almost deco corn status. If what you’re saying is right, something must be done about it.

FluffyRaccoon
FluffyRaccoon
MPL16mo

Surprised to see so much misinformation on this post. This is as far away from the truth as one can be.

ZestyNugget
ZestyNugget

I am least aware about RMG, So can you tell what's wrong with this post? And what's truth?

DancingPretzel
DancingPretzel

@NoisyRefusal don't worry you job is safe MPL is running betting games so might survive but not all companies. 😅

FluffyNugget
FluffyNugget
Swiggy16mo

All the games were already rigged before GST even came in 💀 Ever wondered how they minted money in the hay days. The house always wins.

CosmicTaco
CosmicTaco
MPL16mo

There’s guardrails in place around what games the company can and cannot build. Any game needs legal opinion from a judge and data on player P&L needs to be shared so that it’s clear that engaged players have better performance. Also - the board numbers are MPL consolidated so moving someone from one team to another doesn’t change the overall numbers.

DancingPretzel
DancingPretzel

Legal opinion you can get from any lawyer and judges are bought with money. The only rule is ki game of chance is illegal. Adding skill word doesn't makes it skill based. P&L optimisation is known, your ex employees have told MPL stories to many founders & investors in their interviews

CosmicTaco
CosmicTaco
MPL16mo

Isn’t any card game a game of chance to some extent? Rummy is also a game of chance since there's a deck involved, and so is Poker - but that’s not what the courts have said. It’s up to the courts to give a verdict, not individuals

FuzzyBoba
FuzzyBoba
MPL16mo

MPL has launched betting games coz now there is a flat 28 percent gst. It doesn’t matter if you run skill games or game of chance. And to be honest MPL is here to stay, not sure about other gaming apps. MPL’s revenue has increased by 60% since the declaration of GST. And according to projection it will touch the same profit level that it had preGST within 5-10 months

DancingPretzel
DancingPretzel

Yeah MPL is smart will stay if continue gambling but playing black. Chance based games are illegal. Just adding skill in front of the game doesn't make it skill based.😅

CosmicWaffle
CosmicWaffle
Probo16mo

Ever Heard of Kalshi, everything new at first is opposed with some resistance
Good Concept, implemented by some companies in India too

DancingPretzel
DancingPretzel

Kalshi is regulated but in india players are not regulated and margin is 1.5% GST 28% so net loss on tax itself is high. 3 players in this space are closing companies , Betteropinion, tamasha , opinion trading app by gameskraft and many more are shutting shops

CosmicWaffle
CosmicWaffle
Probo16mo

Probo, MPL Opinio both are generating profits, in these apps no possibility of rigging the game, it’s the users that decide the market conditions. But yes needs to be regulated

BouncyCupcake
BouncyCupcake

Dream11’s founder is in close circles of the Ambani family. Soooo yeah, they are not going dead anytime soon.

MagicalPancake
MagicalPancake

They made $310 mil in profits in this year even after gst effect. Probably enough to survive a long time.

SwirlyTaco
SwirlyTaco
PayTM16mo

Nirlajj........ye apps fir aa gaye??

QuirkyJellybean
QuirkyJellybean
PayTM16mo

What about Gameberry Labs and Gameskraft I heard they are profitable?

DancingPretzel
DancingPretzel

Gamekraft is rigged RMG apps and they do black money to white money operations.

Gameberry is doing real good. True & Best gaming company.

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