Ok, didn’t expect my comment to blow up this way
Woke up, saw this post and just dropped a comment on what I truly felt - phone has been buzzing since every minute with notifs with so many likes and comments in threads
Let me make one thing clear, I actually identify myself more with Bengaluru than my hometown Chennai - this city is what has given me and my family everything we have.
Me, my wife and kids everyone is fluent in Kannada, that being said I am 100% against imposition of a language on anyone - be in Hindi on Kannadigas or Kannada on ‘immigrants’.
All of us know and agree that this law won’t see the light of the day but what people fail to see is how such an idea makes the ease of living more difficult and just deepens the divide in this gem of a city.
Saw a lot of hateful DMs as well asking me to leave, I actually also might but that will only be limited to moving my business.
Bengaluru was home, will always stay as my home :)
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Bangalore survived before IT, will survive even if all Non natives leave.
All non natives who think they made BLR what it is today, why didnt you create it in your home towns?
Am not a native BLR, but people who think BLR is today what it is, is because of immigrant population is living in fools paradise. We made it big because of BLR not the other way around.
Agreed, more people should work to create such an ecosystem across India. Bangalore is overwhelmed with people, maybe some decentralisation is not so bad.
Although I disagree with the bill, I do think Bangalore needs a break.
Don't think many people moved to Bangalore before the IT boom. Bangalore invited the IT boom, it was part of public policy efforts from many decades.
People here were educated, there were amazing institutes and talent was available, Infosys and Wipro etc. got set up here hence.
I agree with you, Bangalore will survive regardless.
But over time there will be tax loss, revenue loss. The SF exodus to Miami didn't break SF, ofc. But today Tesla and many big companies don't pay taxes to SF. There has been a revenue loss. And that's that.
I feel the impact comes in 10-20 years.
I've lived in Hyderabad and seen no Telugu friend get anxious over language till day. What makes some Kannadigas think this way?
Why do one need such laws in first place though? Are Kannadigas not getting enough jobs as Bangalore booms?
In my personal observation, I have seen very few locals at leadership position. On the contrary I have seen a lot of Tamil folks in leadership positions (Director, VPs, CxOs) in India as well as globally. (Don’t kill me for it - just an observation)
it’s evident from reservation (caste based) that it fills bottom positions more and rise to leaderships is always on merit. So this move even thought less likely to be implemented, will not solve for the core problem. That can only be solved through structural investment in education and change in the mindset.
This is protectionism for low paying jobs. For example, in the apartment society that I live in, 70% of the guards and support staff are Nepali and the rest being from Bihar and Bengal. This is happening more and more because these immigrants are ready to do blue collar jobs at much lower salaries.
These laws stems from the collective angst against ethnic migration and change in overall demographics - which has its consequences in the cultural aspect of the land. You might have to check how conservatives in US and Europe are extremely hostile towards immigrants/refugees, in recent times.
Politicians after all represent the people of the land and they want to at least position themselves as working for the betterment of people.
Every city metro city except Delhi (maybe. I am not 100% sure) is facing this in India. In Kolkata, there is an influx of migrants from Bihar, Jharkhand (even Bangladesh too). In Chennai, most of the blue collar jobs are replaced by labourers from Bihar, UP owing to supply vs demand and cost factor. Hyderabad is growing and might face the same issue if the demographic behaviour changes.
Mumbai is probably the most cosmopolitan city in India, with lesser incidents. Although it has its own language issues.
Talent isn't fixated on BLR. They move wherever the opportunity is. The power dynamic favours employers not employees, if employers will feel right to move, talent too would move. As a Delhi guy, whatever little I've stayed in Bengaluru, I've never felt at ease with the locals. There is some unspoken tension in the environment, they (especially the not so doing well ones) just don't like outsiders coming in and shining. They aren't wrong to feel this way, its natural. Its been happening for centuries now. What I fail to understand is why outsiders are so hell bent in making the city look like its perfect on social media, why they want to stay at a place where they aren't welcomed or appreciated - there is a whole world beyond your office mates & flatmates and if you can't go to a local market where you're not given the same respect just because you can't speak the same language then fuck it.
To all people commenting things like "migrants didn't need Bangalore" or "Bangalore didn't need migrants" - abey chutiyon ofcourse no one needs a city, no city needs people to survive.
EOD any place is just a geographical location which happens to be the premises for work being done because the infra has now been built around it - none of us are in the business of minting gold nor is this a gold mine
We need ONE business language - the common language the majority speaks, be it English or Hindi or Kannada or Pahadi. English just makes it 10x easier since comes handy outside of our international borders as well.
Band karo yeh sab bakchodi ab, Kannadigas and "Northies" both are paying enough taxes - get the fucking roads fixed fir yeh sab political propaganda karo.
100% percent rooting for these laws coming in place. Both Banglore and Chennai have this similar outlook towards immigrants. Bahar se aaye or hamari jobs le gye.
Although, except for a very few people the feeling is mutual as the natives don’t want them here and the immigrants are not particularly here by choice, we move cities for individual reasons/ growth purposes.
Such laws will make the impact on the enterprises as they look for the talent irrespective of the native language of the employee.
Eventually enterprises have to move to cities which are more welcoming, accommodating and developed enough to attract talent into them. There are lot of such Cities in India.
This can create a positive on the cost of living and most importantly the air we breathe.
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This is just a political stunt. Everyone including the government knows this bill will get squashed in HC and wont get implemented. I remember TN govt bringing 75% local reservation bill 2 years ago now no one even remembers it
That bill is only for blue collar workers. Doesn’t apply to white collar jobs in any sector. So at max they can say that the security guards, housekeeping staff etc need to be Kannadigas.