The stupidity and arrogance of some leaders in some companies to use colleges as filter criteria for what is clearly irrelevant for the role.
Mostly these idiots end up fucking up company after company creating these neo-casteist groups sucking off and living off each other.
This identity based hiring is the start of corporate politics. I still don’t understand how difficult it is for fucking idiots to understand that while hiring for most roles you have to encourage diverse backgrounds at the start of the process to help you hire the right candidate for the long term, specially in a startup.
PS I’m not against preferring candidates from certain colleges if it’s relevant. What i do hate is this herd behaviour of trying to hire only from your alumni the moment you are given leadership roles.
It must be such shitty experience to work under idiots like these if you are not from their alumni colleges because their biases play into all evaluations they do about their teams.
This is pretty common, has been like that for ages. It’s their company and their rules. You also have the freedom to NOT apply. Maybe they have had better experiences with candidates from top tier universities. Remember getting into most tier 1 colleges is itself difficult and only top talent make it. Also get better academic infrastructure, exposure to alumni networks, etc. So there are high chances they will do well.
Doesn’t mean that candidates from non-tier1 universities can’t excel. Some can be equally good or even better. Maybe these guys don’t want to take a chance with this role.
People should expect better from people.
Spoken like a loser. Shut up and live your sad life.
Hate to be that guy but this way its much more easier for the HMs, HRs. Plus, trust comes in easy if someone is from same college.
Also, earlier I respected tier 2/3 people who made it big but kinda don't like the superior attitude most of them have "kya ukhaad liya tier 1 jake ham bhi yahi t bhi yahi"
Firstly, no we are not at the same level, huge difference in salaries at every level. Secondly, even if its same, college is MUCH MORE than securing a job, more like a byproduct(for me, at least)
If someone has worked hard at any point in life, they can milk it as long as they want.
PPS- You are not a fucking innovative community if your community is built out of college tags.
Massive W take. I agree with you. This is just stupid.
Do you think this "college tags" would be irrelevant anytime soon in future? Or in Indian job scene it won't be the case.
I see people arguing that it doesn't matter anymore on the contrast many companies hire based on college criteria.
Always better to de risk shit and get a better degree
Whoa! Shaant bheem shaant I read this post all angry and hyped up 😅
But 100% agree with you!
There is absolutely no need to do this tbh I don't know why this exists.
For a growth manager role, there's absolute 0 relevance that going to IIT/IIM has. Now, sure, people from these institutions are intelligent and hard working as a function of cracking entrance tests.
But then you could prioritize them when interviewing. Why completely fend off good candidates (who might be much better) before they apply?
They want high IQ employees and want to impress investors. Hiring people from good universities accomplishes that.
I agree But distancing yourself from other candidates who could be as smarter isn't the best idea.
You should filter out after receiving applications, not completely shoo away everyone else
I know this isn't ideal.
Some practical advice: HRs often add these filters to make their job easier. You can DM employees inside the company to identify the Hiring Manager, and DM him/her on LinkedIn. If your profile is good enough and you can show how you'd be a good culture fit, you have a chance.
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if you prove that you are good enough to someone important enough, you are bound to get an interview
Many companies use iit/iim as a proxy for hustle. Hiring is always going to be probabilistic. They are not saying they would hire anyone who went to these colleges (else there won’t be a process) but one less thing for them to evaluate a candidate on.
There would be many deserving candidates outside of iit/iim too, but harder to find that among the noise. They may have a more holistic process when they are bigger, but for now, proxies seem like a good compromise. Many growing companies do not have enough resources to devote to the process.
As to it being arrogance or idiocy, to each her own. Many candidates don’t realize that they can still apply and if they have a good profile they will get a call.
Diversity is a roundabout way of saying “hire mediocre candidates” as they would be in the process for quality alone.
Exactly. This.
I heard pocket FM is having some crazy WLB. Folks in growth roles are putting 60-70hr weeks.
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