TwirlyWalrus
TwirlyWalrus

How realistic is it to survive a PIP at Amazon India?

Is it easy to come back from a PIP there or you'll be booted to meet their quota usually?

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ZestyDonut
ZestyDonut

Whatever i have heard, its tough. But its not necessary that everyone will be in pip.

TwirlyWalrus
TwirlyWalrus

Most people won't be in PIP. But how hard is it to get out, if you're in PIP?

ZestyDonut
ZestyDonut

The universal rule says that if you are in Amazon’s pip, your time has come. People usually starts searching outside.

Blind will give you an better idea. Post this question there once.

FluffyPretzel
FluffyPretzel

So the way it works at Amazon is you’re put on a dev plan for 4-6 weeks with goals on what you gotta meet to get out of dev plan.
Incase you don’t, then you got 2 options - either resign & leave or go into pivot.
Pivot is discussion where you & your manager get to present your performance to a panel of 3 people who decide (vote) if your performance is uoto the mark to be taken out of dev plan. If you survive, you get the option of moving to a different team, else you get into dev plan - 2.
Note - if you fail dev plan - 2, you’re fired & never rejoin Amazon & without any severance pay.
If you exit without getting into pivot - you get severance pay basis your tenure.
You gotta make sure that the goals in your dev plan are rational & achievable.

TwirlyWalrus
TwirlyWalrus

Is dev plan 1 or 2 the pip?

FluffyPretzel
FluffyPretzel

Dev plan -1 is the start of pip.
Note - this is how the biz side pip works. Not sure for tech.

WobblyDumpling
WobblyDumpling
Amazon18mo

If you are at razorpay why are you asking about Amazon India

TwirlyWalrus
TwirlyWalrus

Knowledge is power.

WigglyPenguin
WigglyPenguin

If you are in PIP, save your self respect and just resign instead

TwirlyWalrus
TwirlyWalrus

If you are terminated after PIP, do you get severance pay?

ZoomyWaffle
ZoomyWaffle
Swiggy17mo

Yes of 3 months

FluffyCupcake
FluffyCupcake
Amazon18mo

Even if u survive, growth will be limited because of spots. Having said that, PIP isn’t always due to performance issues.

TwirlyWalrus
TwirlyWalrus

Obviously if 10% has to be mandatorily put on PIP, someone has to go no matter how good everyone is

GoofyDonut
GoofyDonut

Being in PIP is like being a goat stuck on a small island with a lion. You might survive for a few days, few months even; but sooner or later you are going to get eaten.

Say goodbye to that back loaded stock promises

PerkyLlama
PerkyLlama
TIFIN18mo

What is pip?

ZippyPotato
ZippyPotato

Performance Improvement Program

FluffyWaffle
FluffyWaffle
Lowe's18mo

If you got pip , start searching for new jobs asap

TwirlyWalrus
TwirlyWalrus

Amazon is different

SparklyWaffle
SparklyWaffle
Google18mo

Most people dont come out of PIP. You need to clearly demonstrate meeting expectations, which is hard, especially for people who were under performing. Amazon Managers have to meet quota - so they might or might not be invested in coaching you.

My suggestion: Take severance when pivot is offered

FloatingPenguin
FloatingPenguin

PIP is a finer way to not give you 3 months salary that they will have to give you when fired + PR stunt to save face

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