How many of you hate MBAs and why?
I don’t think they add any value but just keep seeking credit for others work.
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This is a tech junkie high on coding speaking for the nation, I think. Adding to it are another set of techies that are seeing inflated salaries and think they know it all.
Folks, there are 20-25 lakh graduates in India every year. Hardly 10-20% get good jobs. These are Bcom, bsc, Bba, hotel management & tier 2 core engineering graduates. For them this is the only option to some sort of decent life (8-12 LPA)
The reason you wrote this post is the very reason this world needs more non-techies that value other professions, and don’t think SQL, React, HTML, CSS. Rule the world
You're right. We look at 40-50-80lpa 'strategy' consultant MBidiots and think they're overpaid with not enough skin in the game. And we're right.
But most MBAs in our country are honest operations folks drawing average salaries at small/medium size companies and doing their best to grow the business. They don't toot their horn on LinkedIn so we don't see them. But they're there.
MBA full form in my view - Master of Barely Anything
They handle lot of shit which other people don’t want to do. Hence they get paid well , as they do this dirty work they have to do all sort of startagy and politics
Wow! this is a first. I have never seen a manager do anything in office apart from giving instructions to people more smarter than them to carry out stuff. Also, management was started as way to control workers in the industrial revolution. Companies who extend it to tech are digging their own grave because developers are not just like a ordinary factory labour.
Good to see that you accept that MBAs do politics in office and create toxic environment for everybody
I'm not an MBA grad but I do think you're being too harsh and generalizing all of them into one category. A lot of MBA grads I know are people who are quite smart and pick up new ideas very quickly. A lot of them are admittedly "generalists" solely because they don't know what exactly they want to do and that is fine imo not everyone always knows what they want to work as. And as far as doing office politics is concerned they're merely looking out for themselves and some of them also go to very extreme ends to protect their people. You might not always know what's happening behind the scenes and why they're doing what they're doing. It's more of a reflection of the company's culture overall than the people tending the lines. I'm quite sure some of them are genuinely just empty suits who don't bring value to the table but saying ALL of them are that way only blinds your perception about them and gives you preconceived notions which aren't really for you or your org.
People build culture. Not sure it is right to defend them by saying they are just looking out for themselves honestly.
If you're a late stage employee there's honestly nothing much you can do about the culture as an individual no matter how much you want to. At that point anything major has to come from the leadership. Your immediate managers will have close to zero influence over the culture. They can still create a good working environment for their team to the best of their ability but changing culture is harder to do imo.
I think this stems from the fact that most mid to senior hiring carry requirements for MBA. The lack of proper skill set matching or internal transitions make it a go to thing for people to move up the ladder.
It's not like MBAs are useless, it's simply that it creates a standardized notion for an org that you will understand the business and implications of your decisions.
I've met practitioners who haven't done MBA looking to hire MBA folks to cover gaps in specialisations like finance, supply chain ops etc which require a more deeper biz understanding
On the other hand, I've seen MBA folks hire non-MBA folks because they don't come with a linear thought process of how biz needs to be operated.
So the real question is, what's important in the org and your line of business for people to add strategic value to have MBAs or not.
P.s.- I am a Non-MBA individual who has helped senior roles in start-ups. So I know the struggle but won't discount all the MBA folks in a shot having hired on both spectrums for my teams earlier.