Help me select offer
Want to switch over to a new company and have offers for very senior IC roles. Help me select right offer
I am picky about few things
- Work culture should not be toxic. A little bit of politics etc is manageable
- Should get opportunities to work as IC. Not too interested in managerial work
- Smart peers and should have mentally stimulating work
Yoe: 10+ years at FAANG
Salesforce
Software Engineering
Principal Bengaluru10 YoE
Congratulation on the offer although I’m a baby in experience as compared to you . Here’s my two cents,
Many companies are using sales force as compared to atlassian products , but atlassian is deep embedded in software companies so it is wherever you pivot,
And I would love if you can share your journey somewhere so that I believe that something good eventually happens 😅😅😅
Nothing stands out in my journey apart from being lucky. I started at one of the WITCH companies, got tired of toxic work culture and decided to interview outside. Friend referred me at Amazon and I liked the work there. I focused on learning and enjoying work. Was lucky to get good managers and my work was rewarded with promotions.
Growth stagnated in past 2 years so I interviewed outside and got offers for my current level+1.
What has been your journey like?
This is your 3rd or 4th org?
Bro i am interested to see your resume or LinkedIn if you don't mind
Join Atlassian. Its remote and you will get a piece of mind. Less variable more esops value, ideal for long term stay.
Work at Atlassian seemed pretty boring based on my discussion with managers. I could be wrong. Do you know someone who works there and has had good things to say about the company?
Not sure about that. I said Atlassian because I've been using Confluence for 7 years and I like it as a product. If I get a chance I would choose to work with that team instead of Salesforce.
Salesforce is great as well but remote work with hefty package is a deal breaker for me. This is just my personal opinion.
I wish I had these problems. The difference is more than I make in a year 😭
WITCH companies charge overseas clients a fortune to have you on payroll. I've seen them charge around $45-$50 per hour per person on time sheets. They pay employees in India peanuts (around $500 per month) and pocket the rest of it.
Your work's real worth is what TCS charges it's clients. Up to you what you want to do about it.
@elontusk for which org Salesforce has given offer to you. There is one monolithic repo which has 99 Percent of Salesforce code. There is no concept of Microservice in Salesforce. Scale is very less as most of CRM are b2b only.
What is your current comp if you don’t mind?
Salesforce
- Pros
- WLB
- Stock is going uphill
- Less chance of layoff in India
- Great medical insurance
- potential opportunity to move to slack
- Cons
- Outdated tech stack
- Politics
- Promotion to next level will be very slow
- mandatory WFO 2/3 days
- mostly full stack work
- low refreshers
Atlassian
- Pros
- WLB
- Remote
- Good parental leave
- Good refreshers
- Can’t say about layoff Cons
- Boring work in india
- Stock is highly overvalued
Personally for me the deciding factor will be the manager at both the companies and remote work thingy. Try to find from your connections if manager at both companies are toxic or not
Also if you decline any of the offer do it in a kind way so that you don’t ruin the relation with the recruiter. In case you find the work boring in the company you joined just call the other recruiter to see if the role is still open.
Usually principal roles are not easily filled so jump the ship in first 3 months if you don’t like it
Thanks for sharing your perspective!
Also if you can grind more and have time in your hands give interviews at Databricks, stripe, airbnb, uber, Google.
It will be hard to find a company with intellectually smart peers, less politics and good WLB
Congratulations on the offers!
Big congratulations!! I am also an SDE3 at Amazon. What was your preparation strategy to get these offers?
Nothing too different from what you find in online forums. System design primer, leetcode mediums, DDIA, famous sys design papers like GFS, Chubby, Hadoop etc
I also watched PoA talks of famous Amazon PEs. You can find them on broadcast internally
Can you name some PEs whose talks you watched?
