MagicalHamster
MagicalHamster

Amazon India's estd P&L: $21.3Bn in GMV, $5.6Bn in revenue (15% B2C take rate), $0.9Bn annual losses

  • Overall, Indian eComm is now $120Bn in size
  • Continues to be Amazon's fastest growing foreign market going into the closing of this year.
  • FY23 was an impact of Covid baked in growth.
  • Amazon would be quite okay with losing just $900Mn annually for the opportunity this presents
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JazzyBagel
JazzyBagel
Zepto11mo

Don't they deliberately show losses to avoid taxes?

JumpyBanana
JumpyBanana

Stupidity at its best. Don't listen to people who say this.

When you "show loss" you also need to fund it. The "loss" is an exponentially higher number than the tax to be paid.

No one in their right mind would say, "Oh let me lose $1bn so I don't have to pay $250mn in taxes" UNLESS they have black income.

JazzyBagel
JazzyBagel
Zepto11mo

That's the difference right? - I said "Showing losses" and not actual loss. They have multiple different revenue stream especially from cloud business that can fund these losses.

SwirlyPretzel
SwirlyPretzel

What’s the source of this data?

MagicalHamster
MagicalHamster

This isn’t reported by Amazon This is estimates from Barclays

Should not be too off though

GroovyBoba
GroovyBoba

Yea 0.9b is chump change to Amazon. The opportunity to capture a big chunk of Indian e-commerce is huge. They can outlast the competition for years to come and then start making the profits

FluffyTaco
FluffyTaco

The competition is Walmart

FluffyNugget
FluffyNugget
Plivo11mo

You’d be surprised with America’s debt. For rich or such big businesses, debt is an instrument afaik

SillyBiscuit
SillyBiscuit

Exactly

SqueakyBagel
SqueakyBagel
Xiaomi11mo

Flipkart is bigger than Flipkart around 30B$ should be it for fk.

MagicalPancake
MagicalPancake
Swiggy11mo

Second that. While FK AOV is low it's quite ahead in terms of orders and hence GMV of FK definitely to be higher than that of AMAZON. I was estimating it to be close to 35 Bn$. And another way arrive at this number is through their recent funding by Google at 33Bn$ valuation. Typically for valuations at such level are 1 times GMV.

PeppyCoconut
PeppyCoconut

120 bil is the size of the market in 2023/24 or is projected to reach that number in the future?

MagicalPancake
MagicalPancake
Swiggy11mo

I think Flipkart is quite ahead of Amazon in terms of orders and GMV. And as per sources Amazon has been in a burn control mode for the past year and was okay to let go of market share. So if they are at a loss of 0.9 Bn$ after all this then I wonder where FK is at. Maybe 1.5-2Bn $ loss!

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