ZoomyDonut
ZoomyDonut

Please don’t do an MBA for the sake of doing one

Lots of M7 MBA folks I know of are having ‘Stealth’ on their LinkedIn since they haven’t found a role yet and don’t want to show a gap - it’s brutal out there

Post image
8mo ago
Talking product sense with Ridhi
9 min AI interview5 questions
Round 1 by Grapevine
SnoozyMuffin
SnoozyMuffin
Student8mo

@DaringTrain made a similar observation yesterday on a thread and was swarmed by people idolizing MBA. Things seem rosy from outside, but may not be for many MANY people

PerkyCoconut
PerkyCoconut

First of all M7 is operating in a different job market of US as compared to India. Secondly, your own company Microsoft has come to campus (IIM C) and hired a lot of folks in India, while firing people in US.

Indian job market is way better >>>>

CosmicLlama
CosmicLlama

most people in India do MBA to furnish thier resume and get a better job. As long the economy is grwoing , this is the best way. The problem starts when the economy slows down. Youtube is filled with videos showing the pathetic conditions of Chinese graduates from top university.

WigglyBagel
WigglyBagel
Student8mo

Will comment on this as a CA and a recent IIMA grad . As a CA , I really found very minimal value add in MBA curriculum. I could manage to be in top 10 percent of my class with minimal CP’s and minimal studies . So that tells a lot about of level of the curriculum today.

Further MBA doesn’t teach any hard skills. Today markets value skills above anything else. Very few of my non Fin batchmates remember how to properly read a balance sheet and even after completing MBA from IIMA

Of course everyone is placed but it’s high time MBA as a degree needs to reinvent itself . MBA today has become a placement agency disguised as an educational degree

ZestyUnicorn
ZestyUnicorn

Hey thanks. As a fellow CA, it brings clarity

SleepyHamster
SleepyHamster

This is because you are a CA and your course was at 90% over lap with MBA, this value is much higher for a techie or an engineer or an arts student who learn fresh.

PerkyMochi
PerkyMochi

Imagine spending all that money on an MBA just to end up in 'stealth' mode. Maybe it's time to get real about what these programs actually deliver.

A M7 MBA in the long run ~10yrs would still add way more value than a regular degree for most people. I mean sure you can succeed in life without giving any fucks about any degree but having a Harvard/Wharton MBA on your CV wouldn't hurt.

PerkyMochi
PerkyMochi

The quality also matters. I interviewed 3 fresh MDI graduates who were not able to tell me 7Ps. I mean really? How bloody stupid can you guys be?

Each one of them was 98+ %ile, had interned with big names like RB, AP and was unplaced post end of course.

MBA entrance needs to change else we’ll see a newspaper clip with headline- “90% Indian graduates and POST GRADS both are unemployable”

Yo I remember there were 4Ps in marketing. Did they increase it to sound smarter?

SquishyPretzel
SquishyPretzel

There are only 4Ps in Marketing. The rest is BS added by consultants to sound smarter.

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

I think MBAs should be cheaper tbh. Then it would actually make sense to do one, because the upside potential is still higher compared to non MBA career trajectory.

Unless you become an entrepreneur directly, MBA mostly helps as long as it is affordable for the person.

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

I actually did startup without an MBA and i would say i learnt more than MBA could teach me. But i still might go for an MBA later , or a masters at the least. Makes job hunting easier.

I never had a problem with jobs before covid, even used to get inbound interviews without effort. But after covid it was hard to find good jobs in a super competitive market. That's why I went all in on my then side gig, now main gig.

BouncyBurrito
BouncyBurrito

If mba would have been cheaper, it would be a great deal. Why should someone loose 2 years of earning and take a huge loan to pay the institute? Hopefully things change in future 🙂

JumpyPotato
JumpyPotato

Interesting observation.

Have been kinda comtemplating about doing one for myself too.

4 YoE now. A PM. Also, bad bugged by the thrill of starting a company. Can't happen to decide which one to hit first, startup or MBA? Because in any case, if I decide to do the other one later, it will be late.

JazzyCoconut
JazzyCoconut

Do the MBA first unless the startup idea is very good/in demand.

FuzzyBiscuit
FuzzyBiscuit

Classic causation correlation problem.

Those M7 grads are not jobless "because" they have done their MBAs from those elite institutions.
They're jobless "despite" it.

The job market is much much much worse for people who don't have these fancy signals and networks to rely on.
It's not like they're better off than the M7 grads 🤣

Maybe short run financial obligation wise yes, but medium term the M7 grads are definitely much better off.

ZoomyMochi
ZoomyMochi

I have a dual MBA and am still unemployed. Not receiving any calls. It's been 1.8 years since I started looking for jobs. I've 4+ yoe as well.

TwirlyQuokka
TwirlyQuokka

Kohlberg Kravis & Roberts & Co (KKR) is hiring in Gurgaon, India:

https://www.kkr.com/careers/career-opportunities

Interested Candidates can share their resume on chakshu.refers@gmail.com

FloatingPickle
FloatingPickle
TCS8mo

Please don’t do a BE/BTech for the sake of doing one. Even BSc physics or engineering is better.

FloatingPickle
FloatingPickle
TCS8mo

BSc electronics > B.E EEE

DizzyKoala
DizzyKoala

@GullibleOil
"50 Lakh loan + LPU MBA"

Now, I can totally understand why you are so angry and hate MBA.

But please understand root cause of problem. Also MBA gives great returns in very long term especially senior/leadership roles.

Discover more
Curated from across